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Post by shkarivka on Mar 12, 2007 14:34:16 GMT -5
Hi Howard,
I wonder if there is a way to NOT import GEDCOM tags into notes when importing a file?
The main reason I love PAWII is for the wonderfully clean reports it generates (and the tagging system!).
I use GEDitCOM as my "reasearch" program - entering all kinds of media, notes and sources and many, many events as I find them. Then, in GEDitCOM, I sift through the accumulated information and write comprehensive notes to validate the evidence therein and get the best data out of it for the vital information.
Then, with the notes written as I like them, I import to PAWII and voila, I can make many fine looking reports!
Now, I have to either export my GEDCOM file through a GEDitCOM "export shredder" to remove all the events before I take it to PAWII. If I don't, then the notes end up crammed full of event tags which I've actually already incorporated into the note tags themselves and so I end up with notes in PAWII reports crammed full of useless tags which must be edited out one by one.
Can you give me the option to NOT import data if I so choose? I really, really liked PAWII the way it was before that.
I'm getting close to forcing GEDitCOM to make reports the way I want, but it's not easy. PAWII excels as shortening place names to the city when repeated and there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that in GEDitCOM.
Can you think about that request? If it can already be done, please let me know how to turn on such a feature.
Thanks,
Dave
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Post by Howard Metcalfe on Mar 12, 2007 18:19:18 GMT -5
Hi Howard, I wonder if there is a way to NOT import GEDCOM tags into notes when importing a file? .......... Can you think about that request? If it can already be done, please let me know how to turn on such a feature. Thanks, Dave Most new users want to have everything (well, almost everything) they had in a previous GEDCOM, and a review in one magazine dinged me for somehow not including all the tags. But I understand your procedure. Let me think about it. (In the meantime, maybe you should delete the tags in GEDitCOM after you've incorporated their info into your notes.) For those people who have imported their initial GEDCOM from another program and edited the information, those tags will not appear again. For those who just start out fresh entering information, those tags will never appear. A PAWriter file exported to a GEDCOM just contains its normal tags, and when re-imported will add nothing to the notes that wasn't there before. So for most people, it's just a one-time event that let's them view and edit information contained in tags from some other program, and the notes are thereafter unchanged (except as the user wishes). This is just a way to make sure nothing is lost when starting out in PAWriter with work accomplished in another program. Maybe that magazine will someday write a revised review. Best, Howard
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Post by shkarivka on Mar 13, 2007 9:44:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the quick replies, Howard.
I'd much rather not have to delete the tags after they are incorporated into my notes as i may incorporate them all, only to later find new events, info etc and want to incorporate that as well and it will be easier if I have all the original information in my GEDCOM "categorised" under the proper tags. I guess my "notes" and more "narratives" than notes. I want my non-genealogy readers to enjoy reading them. THat means they are not just a list of data in paragraph form, but different data is connected to other data in a way that is easy to digest.
You know how it is, you read all your data and know you've drawn good conclusions and then, bam!, one day you read through your data again and realize you've got clues there you didn't notice before. And if the narrative/note is big, it might not be easy to see where the best place is to insert the new information/conclusion. Some data may warrant only cursory mention one day, and then with the appearance of new data, it may deserve a whole new paragraph. And I need that data categorised and at my fingertips in order to write that new paragraph. Hence no desire to delete the tagged data!
And it is a big extra step I'd rather avoid altogether. That's why it would be so much easier for me to have an on/off preference switch in PAWII - so I don't have to either pre-empt or reverse something I don't even want done.
I can understand people wanting their data all imported, but I would very much appreciate the ability to choose or not choose to do so. :-)
If PAWII-generated reports were not so good, I probably wouldn't care, but I hate to see such a good thing take a hit! :-)
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Post by Howard Metcalfe on Mar 13, 2007 18:53:30 GMT -5
Thanks for the quick replies, Howard. I'd much rather not have to delete the tags after they are incorporated into my notes as i may incorporate them all, only to later find new events, info etc and want to incorporate that as well and it will be easier if I have all the original information in my GEDCOM "categorised" under the proper tags. I guess my "notes" and more "narratives" than notes. I want my non-genealogy readers to enjoy reading them. THat means they are not just a list of data in paragraph form, but different data is connected to other data in a way that is easy to digest. You know how it is, you read all your data and know you've drawn good conclusions and then, bam!, one day you read through your data again and realize you've got clues there you didn't notice before. And if the narrative/note is big, it might not be easy to see where the best place is to insert the new information/conclusion. Some data may warrant only cursory mention one day, and then with the appearance of new data, it may deserve a whole new paragraph. And I need that data categorised and at my fingertips in order to write that new paragraph. Hence no desire to delete the tagged data! And it is a big extra step I'd rather avoid altogether. That's why it would be so much easier for me to have an on/off preference switch in PAWII - so I don't have to either pre-empt or reverse something I don't even want done. I can understand people wanting their data all imported, but I would very much appreciate the ability to choose or not choose to do so. :-) If PAWII-generated reports were not so good, I probably wouldn't care, but I hate to see such a good thing take a hit! :-) I think the best I can do is add another undocumented feature that would read a GEDCOM and write it out without all that stuff -- just birth, baptism, marriage, death, burial and note tags. Would that help?
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Post by shkarivka on Mar 15, 2007 0:23:01 GMT -5
Yes, I think that will work. Thanks!
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Post by Howard Metcalfe on Mar 15, 2007 15:12:51 GMT -5
Yes, I think that will work. Thanks! Hi Dave, I need to get done with the current family I'm chasing first. Then I'll try to get the option in the next version. Best, Howard
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Post by Dave on Mar 29, 2007 2:14:22 GMT -5
Ah, don't worry about it, Howard. I'm working on something which wil probably take care of most of my woes. :-) Dave
Edited to add: the fix you have made seems to be working great – thanks a lot!
Now, I'll have to come up with something else for my wish list ;D
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